We are very grateful to the Hythe Town Council who this week gave its support to our listed building consent application. Our particular thanks for Cllrs Major Keith Miles and Douglas Wade who spoke on the application.
Cllr Wade described the site as “an important feature of this part of Hythe and a historic area that commands particular attention and support amongst residents of the area.”
He said “It is an important area to conserve and the new trustees are doing a good job and I very strongly support this idea that work should be done to this in order to improve it, conserve it and enhance it.”
Cllr Miles has been a vocal supporter of our project for a number of years notably during a debate at Hythe Town Council in 2018 and now in favour of this application. Cllr Miles said: “It is very important. It’s a very detailed, explicit report detailing the poor state of the walls and the sooner they can go ahead and get them repaired, the better. I am fully supportive of this application.”
Cllrs Jim Martin and Martin Whybrow both registered a personal interest in the application and opted to abstain. Cllr Martin, a qualified surveyor, donated professional services to the Charity in 2016 in support of our land purchase. Cllr Whybrow, who is a county councillor, has twice granted us funds via his Combined Members Grant.
Hythe Town Council is a statutory consultee and their support will be noted by the planning officers dealing with the application. We expect a decision to be made in March, if not sooner.
The trustees met this week and finalised details for an application for listed building consent. With consent in place, we will be able to press ahead with much-needed repairs to the boundary wall using traditional materials and to a standard agreed in collaboration with the planning department.
Crispin Davies and Terry Ellames joined us as trustees in July 2020 and have been instrumental in guiding us through the process of assembling the application.
Crispin, a former planning officer and Chair of Hythe Civic Society said:
“This is a milestone for the project and enables the Charity to begin to fulfil its obligations to preserve the historic Grade II listed boundary wall. We are very grateful to local specialist Rebecca Cook for her support in putting this application together.”
Terry, also a former planning officer, said:
“We are obliged to seek consent because of the site’s Grade II listed status. Once approved, we will seek to appoint a contractor to carry out the works to a very high standard according to the consent.”
The Charity’s chair, Andy Maguire, said:
“The project has always received a high level of support from the community in Hythe and beyond. Our project seeks to restore and conserve the site’s heritage whilst providing a community garden. To achieve this, we will need to raise additional funds and we are confident that this support will be forthcoming.”
The application has been submitted to Folkestone & Hythe District Council and details will be available on the council’s website in due course.
 Rebecca Cook is a specialist in the conservation and repair of historical buildings and monuments. Rebecca has been extremely supportive of our endeavours to protect the wall and has written a number of reports to support our listed building consent application. Rebecca’s website showcases a number of projects she has worked on https://www.rebeccacook.co.uk/.
 An application for Listed Building Consent has been submitted and is in the process of being validated by Folkestone & Hythe District. Once validated, the application will be determined in accordance with the council’s scheme of delegation. We understand that Hythe Town Council will be consulted and that the application will be open for public comment.
The Triangle is a former animal pound owned by Hythe Triangle Community Garden which is a charity registered with the Charity Commission, No. 1163141. The trustees are Alyson Ward, Andy Maguire, Ashley Tanton, Crispin Davies, Julie Abbott and Terry Ellames.
The first meeting with the 4 new trustees was in August. Since then the trustees have met in September, October and in December.
The main work has been:
A soil test has been commissioned and received.
Work towards a Listed Building application to consolidate and rebuild the walls has commenced. This includes a pre-application discussion with FHDC staff in December. An application will follow this discussion.
Several local contractors have been approached for estimates to clear invasive weeds, remove the membrane that covers the site and to carry out works on the wall.
Some funding has been obtained for the above work but significant funding remains to be found to complete the works and a long term plan for the site.
Agreement of a set of overarching principles for the design of the site which will enable the trustees to ask the community to submit its feedback and ideas in the New Year.
Encountering the inevitable administrative issues of running a charity – a new risk assessment has been put in place, banking arrangements have been reviewed and a draft management and maintenance plan considered.
The trustees will meet again in mid-January 2021 and will provide feedback to the community.
Following a great response to our recruitment drive, the Charity is pleased to announce that we have appointed 4 additional trustees to lead our organisation and the project to transform the Hythe Triangle.
We were fortunate to have a strong field of candidates and we interviewed 8 individuals in total. Each one had the skills, experience and motivation to take on the role.
Alyson Ward, Crispin Davies, Julie Abbott and Terry Ellames have joined Andy Maguire and Ashley Tanton as Trustees of the Hythe Triangle Community Garden.
The Trustees had their first meeting on August 01, 2020, and made a number of decisions that are critical to the future of the project, including a potential sale of the land.
Faced with two offers to purchase the Triangle, the Trustees agreed unanimously that the interests of the Charity are better served by us keeping the freehold of the site.
The Trustees also agreed to work on an engagement strategy, and have identified a number of potential sources for funding.
We will, of course, continue to rely on the community support that has been so forthcoming in previous years.
We will continue to publish updates right here and on our Facebook Group.
Since the notice was published on June 5th, a number of interested parties have come forward with viable options which would enable the continuation of the project, including applications for the trustee vacancies.
This renewed interest is most welcome and we have seen fit to extend the deadline for offers or trustee applications to noon on Friday 26th June.
The trustees will then undertake vetting of candidates in accordance with Charity Commission guidance and hope to appoint successful candidates thereafter. The new trustee board will then meet to determine how to proceed with the project.
We will make available further information to the public when necessary.
Finally, the trustees also seek to assure interested parties that the earlier decision, to seek consent to wind up the charity, has not yet been implemented.
The public meeting held in February now seems like a dim and distant memory. The coronavirus came along and swallowed up two months and counting.
The day before the meeting, I learnt I was being made redundant. As you would expect, my focus at the moment is seeking work to keep a roof over my head. A task made all the more challenging by the coronavirus pandemic. You will perhaps understand that I must dedicate my time to other endeavours right now.
Andy too has other things on his mind. His daughter literally on the frontline of the NHS, working as an intensive care nurse on a covid ward.
We’ve also seen comments from two neighbours of the site on Facebook which were overtly critical of Andy and me. That criticism made us wonder whether there are perhaps other people who are more able to push the project forward.
It was with good intentions that we continued to pursue the project after we’d secured the land. Perhaps that was a mistake but we are confident that our efforts saved the site from development.
So what now?
Andy and I would like to recruit new blood to the organisation. We need a minumum of three new trustees to come forward to join the board of trustees
Now it’s over to you, the good people of Hythe and beyond, to step up and take the project forward.
You can find out more about the skills we need on the attached Role Description document. To apply, download and complete the application for linked below and either email it to hythetriange[at]g mail.com or drop off at 20 St Leonard’s Road, Hythe. If you need assistance, please let feel free to message us via facebook or email us.
Since securing the site several years ago, Andy and I have struggled to
maintain the initial momentum that resulted in the successful purchase of the
site. Despite both of us moving away from our old homes neighbouring the site,
we are both very much committed to doing everything we can to push the project
The purpose of the meeting was to examine what support existed in the community and also to see what others were willing to contribute to help us with the project.
The meeting was attended by around 40 people, and most attendees put
themselves forward to join our “Friends Group” – which we’ll be
setting up shortly. We also asked for people to consider joining the board of
trustees, assist us with publicity and support our physical efforts to manage
After a potted history of the project, and explaining the support we needed, we opened the floor to questions.
A snapshot of the meeting
This is not intended to be a verbatim record of the meeting, instead we’ll cover the main points of discussion.
We were asked to set out the costings for the project, including any purchase costs. We raised £27,000 from community donations. The owners of land sold it to us for £5,000 less than they paid for it. We estimate the refurbishment and basic landscaping will cost £80,000.
We revealed that we have not developed a plan for the site. We have been
concentrating our efforts on securing funding for the main works which need to
take place. However it was suggested that we should formalise a plan for the
finished project to put to potential funders which would stand a much better chance
of success. As an outline of the works involved, we need to reduce the mean
ground level within the site, restore and, in places, dismantle and rebuild the
wall. These aspects alone account for much of the £80,000 figure mentioned
An initial assessment of our draft application to the Heritage Lottery Fund was carried out by a funding mentor provided by Funding4All. It revealed that we were not presenting enough information about the history of the project. We have approached the Hythe Civic Society to support our efforts in this area and our initial discussions have proved to be very promising.
One attendee stressed that she had always known ‘The Triangle’ as ‘The Pound’ and it was important to her that this was kept as part of the name. There was some discussion on this and is was agreed that we would look at how we could incorporate ‘The Pound’ back into the project.
There was general agreement in the room that the site’s heritage is a
serious and overriding aspect of the project. We agreed that those moving the
project forward would have a responsibility for securing not only the heritage
but to actively promote it at every stage. This responsibility is set out in
black and white in our governing documents.
1. To promote the conservation and protection of the Grade II listed former animal pound in Hythe, Kent
2. To provide facilities for recreation or other leisure time occupation by providing an area for use as a community garden and other activities for individuals in Hythe and the surrounds
The aims of the Hythe Triangle Community Garden charity
Having set out the aims of the charity, we asked attendees whether
support remained for an open and accessible community space and everyone
present agreed. Some neighbours present in the room expressed concerns about
potential anti-social behaviour and it was agreed that these concerns would
factor within our development plan.
We were asked about involving local schools. We have spoken previously
with the head teacher at Hythe Bay who, whilst expressing an interest,
confirmed that more detail on our proposals would be necessary before a link
can be forged. It is clear to us that the site must be made safe and so the
logical point to involve schools is when the walls have been repaired and the
ground levels adjusted.
We have come to realise that there will not be single design for the site that will please everyone. There was a feeling amongst the majority that the site should be semi-wild but managed to attract the maximum biodiversity as possible but also remain accessible to those who wish to enjoy it.
At the end of the meeting, it was suggested that a number of local firms ought to be offered the opportunity to become involved in the project either by sponsorship or other means of participation. This will form part of the discussion of our next meeting.
Physical aspects of the project
It might be useful to explain the physical aspects of the project. Each will require significant funding.
Several tree stumps remain around the perimeter – these need to be ground down in order to enable the wall to be rebuilt
Lowering of the mean ground level by removing the added-gravel and membrane, and possibly more of the surface
Restoration and rebuilding of the wall
A key part of the meeting was Andy and I asking for help. Almost everyone who attended signed up for something. Most people added their contact details to the “Friends Group” list, whilst others offered to take a role as a trustee, or provide other support for things like activity days and publicity.
Actions to be taken
Assemble a core group of individuals to formulate a development plan
Arrange a meeting of the core group to take place in March 2020.
A number of people self-nominated at the meeting, and we have received nominations from others too
Publicise the gardening events which are planned to take place on 23rd Feb and 1st March between 10.30am and 12.30pm.
Thank you to Howard, Sian and Crispin for their help to set up and record the meeting and thank you to Hythe Salvation Army for allowing us to use their venue.
This article was updated on 21/02/2020 to confirm the price paid for the land was £27,000.
As many of you will know, The Triangle is owned by a charity, registered with the Charity Commission as a “Charitable Incorporated Organisation” (CIO). The charity has two trustees – myself (Ashley Tanton) and Andy Maguire. The trustees are legally responsible for the running of the charity, including its finances and any assets (I.e., the land itself).
Andy and I set up the charity and, with the support of previous trustees Jill and Jim, successfully raised the funds needed to secure the site and complete on the purchase.
Having reached that milestone, we are looking to recruit new trustees who will take the project forward to the next milestone – creating an open and accessible public space.
The Charity’s charitable objects mandate that the site must be open to the community but how that stage is reached is up to the trustees. So really, the site is a blank canvas.
The challenges for the new trustees will be securing listed building consent for the wall repairs, securing funding for the wall repairs and generally creating the garden. The reward for that work will be seeing the transformation of the site.
If you are interested in becoming a trustee, we suggest you first read “The Essential Trustee” over at gov.uk (linked below) then email us via firstname.lastname@example.org or message us through our Facebook page.
If you have contacted us previously about becoming a trustee, you don’t need to respond to this ad as we will contact you separately.
Please note that, as well as any statutory requirements described in the gov.uk link, it is a condition of the charity’s public liability insurance that trustees “have not been convicted, or charged but not yet tried, of any criminal offence other than a motoring offence” and “have not been declared bankrupt, disqualified from acting as a company director, gone through insolvent liquidation or been the subject of receivership or an administration order” so please bear this in mind before you consider the role.
I genuinely thought that by this point we would be knee deep in mud and up to our eyes in lime mortar. Alas, as many of you will know, barely anything has changed since I last wrote. This is why.
We, the trustees of the Charity which owns the site, decided some time ago to apply to a specific fund for our entire project budget. We met the south-east representatives of that fund, outlined the project and were then encouraged to proceed with an application.
Whilst acknowledging that this decision was taken more than a year ago, it’s also worth pointing out that the trustees are unpaid and are giving up their time to work on the funding application.
That application for a modest grant has taken a lot of time to assemble.
We have been delayed in finalising our finding application because we have been careful to select local tradesmen that a) believe in our vision for the site and b) are prepared to work within the requirements of the fund.
It’s true that we could have applied to different funds for smaller amounts however, this would actually have taken longer to complete.
I believe that we have a good chance of securing funding from this particular, though nothing is guaranteed of course.
The trustees and I are grateful for the messages of support that we have received. In particular, we are looking for someone to assist us with our application for Listed Building Consent – if that’s you, please get in touch.
Thanks for your patience, I’ll try harder to keep the updates coming more frequently.
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